Showing posts with label Rudolf Haag. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Rudolf Haag. Show all posts

Sunday, June 11, 2023

Rudolf Haag and the Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics

 This note is a continuation of Why Algebra? Rudolf Haag 

Haag’s Assertions

Concerning the interpretation of quantum mechanics Haag noted that 

to this day, there remains some uneasiness about its status, some disagreement concerning its interpretation. This is not restricted to crackpots. Different camps of eminent scientists advance widely different opinions.” 

It is good, at this point, to remember the advice of the philosopher, Bertrand Russell, namely that when experts do not agree on a given subject, then “no opinion can be regarded as certain by a non-expert”. Then Haag defines his position, and I will concentrate on just two points here:

  1. The subject of physics is ‘nature’ and, whatever this means precisely, it is something beyond and apart from human knowledge.

In other words, physics should be formulated in such a way that it concerns objective phenomena. All twists, so popular, trying to make physics subjective, invoking the necessity of an “observer”, and so on, do not belong to physics! They result from arbitrarily assumed metaphysical prejudices that affect rationality of thinking.

Then we have the second assertion:

B. Individual knowledge is gained by observation, typically by experiment. In describing the set up and the result of an experiment we are bound by limits emphasized by Bohr: ‘We must be able to tell our friends what we have done and what we have learned.’ Bohr concludes from this that in the description of both the arrangement and the result we are bound to use “the language of classical physics’’.

Thus Haag takes a rational point of view. The language of physics, one that physicists should use when talking about Nature, should be a classical language that deals with real, material objects and their placement in space time.

Popper’s “Propensity”

Further in his paper he notes that many issues in quantum theory are still open, in particular the issue of whether the correct description should be deterministic or not. Instead of using the term “probability”, that requires repeated experiments, Haag opts for the Popperian term “propensity”, that characterizes an objective property associated with a given situation. The fact that “propensity” per se cannot be observed should not worry us, because:

The use of concepts in the theory which are not directly amenable to observation is neither forbidden nor unusual. It seems unavoidable.”

Then he addresses the quantum mechanical superposition principle and superselection rules:

Strict superselection rules forbid (coherent) linear combinations of states which differ in some charge quantum number (electric, baryonic, leptonic,…).

This alone, at least for me, dismisses the “Schrödinger cat paradox”; the paradox exists only because it is based on arbitrary assumptions. 



The fact that there IS a paradox tells us that these assumptions are wrong. But, for some reason, most physicists simply ignore this fact.

The Problem of the Observer

The concept of an “observer” was, for Haag, and also for me, causing a serious problem, as it meant that we forcefully limited the scope of physics, which was/is unnecessary. Instead of introducing an “observer” that is external to the physical system, it is better to introduce the concept of an event – as a fundamental concept. Things happen, with or without observers. Reality is Real on its own terms. Another fundamental concept that we should not be afraid of is irreversibility at a fundamental level. All these corrections should lead to:

a self consistent theory in which all relevant objects are included as parts of the physical system.

Then Haag discusses different possible strategies that could lead to such a theory, and, in particular, notes:

In a series of papers Ph. Blanchard and A. Jadczyk have described a formalism which generates real events in the interaction of an atomic object with a macroscopic measuring device. The latter is idealized as a classical system in the sense that it is described by a commutative algebra which may include some discrete variables. The scheme, called “Event Enhanced Quantum Theory”, introduces irreversible decisions into the interaction process and yields a good phenomenological description of the quantum measurement process. (Italics mine)

As this concerns my own contribution, it is time for me to develop the comment of my teacher, one of the clearest and sharpest minds I ever knew in my life.

P.S.1 My wife likes it. SC looks a lot like FLA - Her childhood home. This is for Her.

Joan Baez, Hickory Winds
It's hard way to find out that trouble is realIn a far away city, with a far away feelBut it makes me feel better each time it beginsCallin' me home, hickory wind

P.S.2.12-06 13:00  I am trying to find out if the conformally compactified Minkowski space is orientable or not. Its double cover certainly is (it is S^1 x S^3), but its image by the covering map? I feel really shameful that I don't know it. Big holes in my working knowledge of differential geometry. Work, work, work and more work needed! So I work.

P.S.3. 13:30 It is (isomorphic to) a Lie group (namely U(2)), so it should be orientable. But then I don't understand anything at all.

P.S.4. Possibly related:
Suspect UFOs Are Biblical Time Machines
Diana Walsh Pasulka

P.S.5. The beginning of "Geometry of the conformally compactified Minkowski space"
With time it will be, little by little,  continuously improved, completed, changed, mutated. Slow evolution. Survival of the fittest, as they say.
I welcome all questions, comments, suggestions concerning these notes. 


P.S.6 From: M. Lipkind, "Definition of consciousness. Impossible and unnecessary? "
In: Fritz Albert Popp and Lev Belousov, "Integrative Biophysics", Springer 2003, p. 439

"Thus,  Protoconsciousness  can  be  imagined  as  current  awareness  by  a living  cell  of the  gap,  that being expressed as  non-congruence,  divergence, incompatibility, collision, conflict - between the ideal geometrical form and its physical realization. This means that such discrepancy between the Ideal Geometry and  Robust Physics is "felt" by the cell.  The  ideal geometry is species-specific, initially pre-existing,  and  pre-determined, while the robust physics is actually occurring and constantly fluctuating to adapt, to adjust, to fit,  to accommodate, to approximate to the ideal geometry.  Accordingly, the living process can be expressed as continuous dynamic approximation of the "real" physical form  to  its  geometrical "ideal".  Since this  approximation is felt  until  there  is  the  non-congruence  between  physical  and  geometrical (which  can  diminish  only  asymptotically,  i.e.  the  physical  will  never coincide  with  geometrical),  then  the  geometrical  feeling (protoconsciousness)  is  an  inalienable  part of any  living  entity.  Hence,  the Geometrical  Feeling  is  suggested  for  the  role  of  the  Protophenomenal Fundamental alongside physical fundamentals (Mass, Charge, Time/Space). As  to  the  deep  ontological  meaning  of the  concept  of "Geometrical Feeling",  it  could  be  analogized  with  the  "Universal  Grammar"  by  N. Chomsky (1988), which may be considered as "intrinsic part of the structure of matter ever since the Big Bang, or a necessary part of the eternal Platonic world oflogic and mathematics" (Hamad, 2001). "

P.S.7. From Christopher Langan "The Theory of Theories":

"For example, modern physics is bedeviled by paradoxes involving the origin and directionality of time, the collapse of the quantum wave function, quantum nonlocality, and the containment problem of cosmology.  Were someone to present a simple, elegant theory resolving these paradoxes without sacrificing the benefits of existing theories, the resolutions would carry more weight than any number of predictions.  Similarly, any theory and model conservatively resolving the self-inclusion paradoxes besetting the mathematical theory of sets, which underlies almost every other kind of mathematics, could demand acceptance on that basis alone.  Wherever there is an intractable scientific or mathematical paradox, there is dire need of a theory and model to resolve it.  

 If such a theory and model exist – and for the sake of human knowledge, they had better exist – they use a logical metalanguage with sufficient expressive power to characterize and analyze the limitations of science and mathematics, and are therefore philosophical and metamathematical in nature.  This is because no lower level of discourse is capable of uniting two disciplines that exclude each other‘s content as thoroughly as do science and mathematics.   

 Now here‘s the bottom line: such a theory and model do indeed exist "

I don't think so. Attempts to create such a beast - they exist.

P.S.8. In the pdf note I have made a few changes comparing to the previous version.. I have multiplied the factor in front of the matrix by "i", and the matrix by "-i". The whole matrix U(Z) is unchanged. The proof  (I will write it later today) will be somewhat more "elegant" after these "cosmetical" changes.

Where did I get the matrix U(Z) from? I am not sure. Reading, thinking, making errors, and correcting them. Until it works the way I envisaged it to work.

P.S.9. Uploaded a new version of the pdf note. The proof of the last lemma is not yet finished.

Thursday, June 8, 2023

Why Algebra, Rudolf Haag?

 This is how I proceeded when I asked Rudolf Haag, one of the most prominent theoretical physicists ever to work in this domain: “why an algebra?” The answer was: “No one knows.” But later, in his monograph “Local Quantum Physics”, which was written partly because I was constantly urging him to do so, Haag was trying to avoid the term “observable” and replaced it with another term “a physical operation”. That the results of performing, two different operations, one after the other, depends on the order is intuitively clear; For instance: having a shower and then getting dressed is not the same as getting dressed and then having a shower.

But even so, as regards quantum theory, from Haag’s formulation we still do not get any clarity about “how”, “when”, and “what” or “who”is performing this operation.

EEQT

Haag’s Rational Philosophy

Rudolf Haag - exactly as I remember Him.

I owe a lot to my private discussions with Rudolf Haag (mainly at DESY, Hamburg, but also at his home in Pinneberg, near Hamburg), and I have used the knowledge that he was trying to bestow upon me in my own research – as much as I have been able to. Here, in this story, up to now, I have been mainly criticizing and deconstructing, even if only briefly, the standard quantum paradigm, as the total destruction would require me to write a whole new book. But now I want to be also constructive. That is why I think it is the right time for me to present some of Haag’s rational philosophy, and to point out which parts of this philosophy I developed into a “physical theory” – which I called “Event Enhanced Quantum Theory”, fondly known in my house as: EEQT.

As you will see, the philosophy of Rudolf Haag seriously puts into question the authoritarian version of quantum theory that is being propagated through the endless publications of the “mainstream” authors. I will base my exposition on Haag's one representative 1997 paper: “Objects, Events and Localization1.

1In Ph. Blanchard and A. Jadczyk (Eds.), “Quantum Future: From Volta and Como to the Present and Beyond”, Springer, 1999




To be continued...

P.S.1 My wife likes this... so this is for her.  

Roberta Flack - First Time Ever I Saw Your Face 1972
During her early teens, Flack excelled at classical piano and Howard University awarded her a full music scholarship. By age 15, she entered Howard University, making her one of the youngest students ever to enroll there. She eventually changed her major from piano to voice and became an assistant conductor of the university choir. Her direction of a production of Aida received a standing ovation from the Howard University faculty. Lyrics.

P.S.2. I am steadily learning more and more about the properties of the aether. Found this interesting 65 pages long paper

G. F. Rubilar
Ann. Phys. (Leipzig) 11 (2002) 10–11, 717 – 782

And, lo and behold, in the references section I am finding my own very short paper 

[30] C. Itzykson and J.-B. Zuber, Quantum field theory, McGraw Hill, New York (1985).
[31] A. Z. Jadczyk, Electromagnetic permeability of the vacuum and light-cone structure, Bull. Acad. Pol. Sci., Ser. Sci. Phys. Astron. 27 (1979) 91–94.
[32] G. R. Kalbfleisch et al., Improved experimental limits on the production of magnetic monopoles, Phys. Rev. Lett. 85 (2000) 5292–5295.

written after discussions with Haag, Kastler and Singer in Ellmau, Tyrol, Austria :

Ellmau. Of course we were having walks while there, 
and in the evening we were drinking beer
listening to the Gypsy music.

P.S.3. Reading John DeSouza, "The Extra-Dimensionals"


 And there:

"One of these is the fact that the medium of all physical existence is not really matter,  space  and  time—it  is  consciousness.  Matter,  space  and  time  are merely after-effects of consciousness. Once we accept this as inviolable truth, then it leads to all manner of previously unthinkable concepts."


P.S.4. Found in 

Nathaniel P. Brown and Naratuka Ozawa, "C*-Algebras and Finite-Dimensional Approximations",  AMS 2008

"1.4. Double duals 

The Banach space double dual of a C*-algebra A is a wild beast; it should be approached with humility, even trepidity. "

P.S.5.Found in Jean-Pierre Petit, The forgotten symmetry


P.S.6.Found in Jean-Pierre Petit, The forgotten symmetry p.145
A sanctuary of science that God seems to have given up visiting.  

P.S.7.Found in Jean-Pierre Petit, The forgotten symmetry p. 157


So, we have the orientation double cover here!

P.S.8. Reading now:

Debergh Nathalie, Jean-Pierre Petit, D'Agostini Gilles

On evidence for negative energies and masses in the Dirac equation through a unitary time-reversal operator

J. Phys. Commun. 2 115012 (2018)

Abstract

We review the standards of relativistic quantum mechanics such as the Dirac equation under the concept of negative masses. We show that negative energies are acceptable provided the masses are simultaneously negative. Negative energy and mass anti fermions are obtained from positive energy and mass fermions through a unitary PT transformation.

P.S.9. Next in the same line S. Hossenfelder, Bimetric theory with exchange symmetry, PHYSICAL REVIEW D 78, 044015 (2008)

Abstract:

We propose an extension of general relativity with two different metrics. To each metric we define a Levi-Cevita` connection and a curvature tensor. We then consider two types of fields, each of which moves according to one of the metrics and its connection. To obtain the field equations for the second metric we impose an exchange symmetry on the action. As a consequence of this ansatz, additional source terms for Einstein’s field equations are generated. We discuss the properties of these additional fields, and consider the examples of the Schwarzschild solution, and the Friedmann-Robertson-Walker metric.

And also this: 2021-mai-Message a Hossenfelder

In a private correspondence at that time Sabine H. got mad at me assuming that I am supporting JPP. JPP got mad at me because I was pointing out to him inadequacies of his accusations.

P.S.10 Another good find of today:

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said Fox News barred content that reflected negatively on vaccines to appease its big-money advertisers in the pharmaceutical industry.

During a June 5 Twitter Spaces interview with the platform’s owner, Elon Musk, Kennedy disclosed that he approached former Fox News CEO Roger Ailes in 2016 about doing a story on the mercury content in vaccines but was shut down.

“He said that any of his hosts who allowed me on TV to talk about this, that he would be forced to fire them,” Kennedy recalled. “And he said that 75 percent of his advertising revenues for the nightly news shows were at that point coming from pharma.”

P.S.11. To the reading list F Henry-Couannier,  Discrete symmetries and general relativity, the dark side of gravity

Abstract:

The parity, time reversal and space/time exchange invariant actions, equations and their conjugate metric solutions are obtained in the context of a general relativistic model modified in order to take into account discrete symmetries. The equations are not covariant and the PPN formalism breaksdown however the new Schwarzschild metric solution in vacuum only starts to differ from that of General Relativity at the Post-Post-Newtonian order for a source at rest relative to the CMB. Preferred frame gravitomagnetic effects well above expectations in the PPN formalism and within the accuracy of the Gravity Probe B experiment are predicted. No coordinate singularity (black hole) arises in the privileged frame where the energy of gravity is found to vanish. The context is very promising to help the cancelation of vacuum energies as gravitational sources. A flat universe accelerated expansion phase is obtained without resorting to inflation nor a cosmological constant and the Big-Bang singularity is avoided. The Pioneer anomalous blue-shift is a natural outcome. The context is also promising to help us elucidate several outstanding enigmas such as flat galactic rotation curves or the universe voids. A wave solution is obtained leading to the same binary pulsar decay rate as observed and predicted in GR.

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